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Siddharth Envato team says

I don’t mean to be a buzzkill but the odds of this getting approved are quite slim.

I highly suggest that you perfect the design aspects first before trying to add in more features and other hoopla. On ThemeForest, design is king and that’s where you’ll need to focus first.

All the best with your future! 16 is a fun age to be!

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christopherjon says
I highly suggest that you perfect the design aspects first before trying to add in more features and other hoopla.
Exactly.

Create a great looking and functional theme first.

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iamthwee says

Hi Siddharth,

Thanks for your opinion, but by design do you mean how it is coded or… graphics/wise.

That would clear a lot up for me because when I submitted my theme kailoon didn’t really say.

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Arre says

Design wise.

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iamthwee says

Sorry, if I’m sounding like a newbie but I need to know if I should just give up because there is no chance my code would get sanctioned.

I’m using the options tree framework for the back end with a few plugins… Is this a bad idea?

If what the TF team are expecting is something like Glide Theme framework I might as well give up for now because that is beyond me.

However, if it is just an aesthetic issue, such the menu not looking good enough, then it is something I can work on.

Clarification from a moderator would be great.

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dpthemes says
iamthwee said
Sorry, if I’m sounding like a newbie but I need to know if I should just give up because there is no chance my code would get sanctioned.

I’m using the options tree framework for the back end with a few plugins… Is this a bad idea?

If what the TF team are expecting is something like Glide Theme framework I might as well give up for now because that is beyond me.

However, if it is just an aesthetic issue, such the menu not looking good enough, then it is something I can work on.

Clarification from a moderator would be great.

My unorganised views: :)

The options tree framework is perfectly fine. A lot of themes use it and sell extremely well. People don’t buy themes just for a framework, yes it will add a few more sales, but ultimately they buy the design.

The only issue with plugins, is asking customers to install them manually because some don’t like it. Another problem is your customers will get notifications to update the plugin, which they will and it could break the theme. What would probably work better is integrating the plugin files into your theme itself.

In your case its an overall aesthetic issue and as Siddharth, who is a reviewer said, you need to work on the design aspects. With your current design, its just too basic, the minimal trend is quite difficult to get right.

I would say scrap the current design and work on something completely different. When you create it initially only build in the absolute minimum. Once your happy with that, start adding on multiple portfolio layouts, homepage layouts, sliders etc

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iamthwee says

Thank you so much for your opinion dpthemes. I admire your work and the framework you have created. Your themes rock!

It definitely seems ‘design is king’ on TF, I’m sure the reviewers know their stuff when it comes to coding but they seem to have a strong design background, I guess that’s what customers are looking for at the end of the day… But I’m not really a designer at all. I can create a few buttons in photoshop and a few effects here and there but designer I am not, I enjoy coding more.

I guess my theme is really basic in terms of graphic design, let’s be fair it is just a black background with the fonts styled from a css file.

I guess it’s not so bad, the worry was it was a poor design from the backend and a more polished ‘Glide’ framework was needed. There’s no way I could code the drag and drop functionality, I would have to take apart the code ‘Headway’ uses or something similar, that would take ages.

I prefer using the plugins because it seems easier, but I guess it wouldn’t be too difficult to grapple with the code and integrate it into my current theme. Let’s be honest. (Next on my to-do list.)

But all in all, I am not a graphic designer however, I’ve had a recent offer of someone who has made good sales with their HTML template, and asked me to turn it into a WP theme.

Maybe this is the best route for me to go.

Thanks for the advice of everyone who has commented in this thread and given me feedback, yes I’m new… but I try to learn as much as possible so I intend to succeed.

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MelforDMThemes says

First of all: Don’t lose hope.

But friend, forget about all the features and first make a design that’s visually per-fect!

The spacing of your theme is off, the header is off, the image in the header is not displaying, there is black font on black background.

You are using buttons from Orman, that’s ok because it’s a freebie and I love his work and way of designing, but it does not match your theme style. By the way, the hover state of the button is cut on the left.

Piecemaker is not really working, there is one part missing it seems. The footer is not appealing, the background pattern repeats in a not-attractive way and is hardly visible.

Again, please forget about piecemaker, page curl or plugins like the options tree. Make your theme a WordPress Theme that just works!

All the best :)

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iamthwee says
First of all: Don’t lose hope. But friend, forget about all the features and first make a design that’s visually per-fect!

Thanks, I’m not down and out just yet.

The spacing of your theme is off, the header is off, the image in the header is not displaying, there is black font on black background.

I believe I have fixed these issues with white space in internet explorer 7->9. Not sure, but ie6 is still playing up. Since it is no longer supported I’m not really that fussed, but would like to know if it is my CSS that is the issue.

You are using buttons from Orman, that’s ok because it’s a freebie and I love his work and way of designing, but it does not match your theme style. By the way, the hover state of the button is cut on the left.

Thanks, yeah I like his style too, I was also a bit wary of using css3 styled buttons because it looks terrible in IE, maybe I’ll use transparent .pngs for next time and style my buttons to suit the theme.

Piecemaker is not really working, there is one part missing it seems. The footer is not appealing, the background pattern repeats in a not-attractive way and is hardly visible.

The piecemaker should be working now, it was simply a case that the one image wasn’t large enough to accommodate the container. Either way it was just a mock up test, I can tidy the sizes up at my leisure. True the foot sucks, again it was just a quick one, I also want the footer to be centered instead of x-repeating across the page. And true the background image doesn’t repeat well.

Again, please forget about piecemaker, page curl or plugins like the options tree. Make your theme a WordPress Theme that just works!

Yeah I’m not too sure if I’m way out of my depth here. I’ve looked at some of the freebie templates out there, such as the one AJ generously released and everything seems integrated with the theme. Mine seems more hackish. I thought the only issue would be the portfolio section, and there is a nice tutorial here of TF to show me how to do that.

But I’m not sure how deep I need to get into php and, to be honest was hoping to avoid most of it. I also need to query my scripts properly using the wp_enque() function.

All my back end control is managed by options tree, which is great, but I’m wondering how much effort I need to go into creating not just custom templates for the portfolio but also the front pages as well.

I guess I was trying to run before I can walk. And TF is probably looking for a polished all round theme. I need to work on the design, or perhaps work with a designer.

I don’t know… I’m at a slight road block atm and I’m wondering if it is worth the effort to make a few sales on the side? But thanks for all the support, it’s a great community you have here!

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MelforDMThemes says
I believe I have fixed these issues with white space in internet explorer 7->9. Not sure, but ie6 is still playing up. Since it is no longer supported I’m not really that fussed, but would like to know if it is my CSS that is the issue.
Well I’m not on IE6 mate lol.

Good luck with your theme :)

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