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parallax2025 says

To all the awesome designers and coders here on TF I have a quick question.

If a coder(s) are partnering with a designer(s) to create some templates for TF what is a fair split? meaning what % of the profits go to each group?

Does the split change based on the coder(s) providing continued maintenance/support for the theme?

thanks all

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FRESHFACE says

You really need to count the hours on both sides, that’s the only right way. And I think you can assume designer and developer will have the same $/hour if they are both good.

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pezflash says

^ And also count that designers needs some relaxing hours (like swimming pool, gym, disco) to inspire that should be included in the balance.

:P

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gljivec says

^ lol nice one :)

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eddiesaints says

I think the 60/40 is a good split taking in consideration that the Web Designer is great at what he/she does. Creating an entirely new concept out of their heads and designing the theme. So, for that, a 40% share.

The Web Developer has to develop the theme, he/she might use code from previous work (maybe a framework?) as well (thus, simplifying the whole process), or not. He/she also has to give support to a ton of angry and mad customers. :P (there are good ones too hehe). 60% for the headaches.

Basically.

Web Designer: 40% (Concept, Design) Web Developer: 60% (Development, Support)

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psvent says

Counting hours work if you hire someone not when you are in partnership.

A fair partnership is 50:50 in my book. You guys forgot that it’s more then just designing and coding, there is also the business part, marketing, ... it’s so much more to a successul business.

A different share would come into account if one of the partners already has an established business. So if someone is already creating and selling PSD ’s/HTML’s, then I as a developer would be perfectly fine with taking a share less then 50%.

But if I would start a new partnership then anything else then 50:50 doesn’t seem fair to any of the two parties.

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bitfade says

it depends on what designer does. if psd/html/css + support related to html/css then 50/50 is fair for both.

and yes, counting hours would never work in a partnership

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FRESHFACE says

Counting hours work if you hire someone not when you are in partnership.

A fair partnership is 50:50 in my book. You guys forgot that it’s more then just designing and coding, there is also the business part, marketing, ... it’s so much more to a successul business.

A different share would come into account if one of the partners already has an established business. So if someone is already creating and selling PSD ’s/HTML’s, then I as a developer would be perfectly fine with taking a share less then 50%.

But if I would start a new partnership then anything else then 50:50 doesn’t seem fair to any of the two parties.

Of course, partnership of two parties is always 50:50 otherwise it’s not a partnership.

An association of two or more persons engaged in a business enterprise in which the profits and losses are shared proportionally... (Revised Uniform Partnership Act § 101 [1994]).

However… the law accepts unequal partnerships se well, but they need to be defined as such—an unequal partnership. Both would still be based on % share division. It is also possible to have a different % share for profits and losses separately. It all depends on your situation therefore you really need to weight the contribution of all (unequal) partners very carefully.

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CODE9RS says

I work with a lot of partners and what I can say, I always allow a 50% 50% earnings split.

Sometimes, the partner says that want to earn 40%, and I can get 60% because we also provide support, then I accept. But only if the partner want this way ;D

Cheers, Rafael

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ThemeProfuse says

I think 50-50 is fair for both. Because if concept & design is not good, then you not get higher sale, from this you loose your time also. So designing is most important part “Don’t ignore it ” :)

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