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fuelthemes says

FuelThemes, after looking at the tickets involved and the code, I can see that it’s more than 6 lines.

Spamming an already busy support queue with petty tickets won’t help your cause either.

I believe the case of Kriesi’s released code to be quite different from the case we’re discussing here.

And how it is different? You won’t tell me its public code, will you?

And I submit a legit support request, its petty?

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Japh Envato team says

And how it is different? You won’t tell me its public code, will you?

Regardless of the code itself, the context of the situation is different.

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fuelthemes says


And how it is different? You won’t tell me its public code, will you?
Regardless of the code itself, the context of the situation is different.

Now the code does not matter? I think you guys are protecting Salient ’s author a bit much.

So if your design is similar, you cannot have same lines. However if the design is different, we can have the same functions?

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Dream-Theme says



P.P.S Yes Doru, we are aware of sara_p banners :P
Everyone is aware. We shouldn’t disturb a party! :D
well someone should do something! I’m not invited!

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Japh Envato team says

Now the code does not matter? I think you guys are protecting Salient ’s author a bit much. So if your design is similar, you cannot have same lines. However if the design is different, we can have the same functions?

I think we both know that’s not what I was saying.

You’ve violated a policy and your theme was hard-rejected. It must be frustrating, and I’m sorry it’s happened to you, I wish you the best of luck with your next theme.

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Orbital_Themes says


FuelThemes, after looking at the tickets involved and the code, I can see that it’s more than 6 lines.

Spamming an already busy support queue with petty tickets won’t help your cause either.

I believe the case of Kriesi’s released code to be quite different from the case we’re discussing here.
And how it is different? You won’t tell me its public code, will you?

It is public code as Kriesi has released it on his blog, thus giving permission to anyone to use it.

Please don’t tell me you don’t understand that, especially after Japh’s detailed reply. You were accused of copying another author’s theme and TF staff found constants from that theme in your theme. This is the proof that you were copying, and a proof that you have copy/pasted the code from another author’s theme to yours. In addition to that, it is a proof that you were well aware of the theme in question, but still proceeded with creating similar design (even if it was your original in the first place).

Now, I don’t really know if there are similarities in those two designs or not, I didn’t bother checking. What I know is that you have at least copied few lines of code from another author’s theme, and you have shown that yourself. Hard-removing your item may be harsh, but rules are rules – they should not be broken. If your item was to stay on the marketplace, where do we draw the line? Copying 6 lines of code is good, but 20 lines is bad? If 6 lines is good, maybe 10 lines should be allowed as well? You have broken the rule, you were well aware of breaking it (why do you even need theme specific constants from another theme in your theme?), and you have paid the price. The price was high for 6 lines of code but judging from Japh’s post, it was more than that and I’m sure TF staff had their reasons to disable your theme.

That said, I’m sorry that this has happened to you, but now we can be sure that you won’t repeat this in the future.

@Japh – while we are at it, can you please disable sara_p’s items for breaking TF rules?

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doru says

what about this?

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Japh Envato team says

@Japh – while we are at it, can you please disable sara_p’s items for breaking TF rules?

I’m looking into this now, thanks for bringing it to my attention, guys!

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Orbital_Themes says

what about this?

Yeah, Japh, what about this?

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Dream-Theme says

what about this?

:D

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