WordPress.org bans Themeforest members from participating in official WordCamp gatherings

Caldazar said

Piracy is illegal, hence moot point.

No, that being the only difference between apples (illegal) and oranges (legal) is actually my point in a nutshell.

Technically you’re doing exactly the same as pirates, except it’s explicitly allowed. Why? Because WordPress gave you the permission as a gift out of the goodness of their hearts, before Envato even existed.

How they choose to use their own software has nothing to do with what they accept you doing with their software.

Even if using it like they do was like distributing a half-proprietary derivate, even if such behaviour could be considered unfair between equals (which I doubt), even then it still would be none of your business, because you aren’t equals.

They even could make Wordpress.com completely proprietary, still absolutely fine and fair, because they are the copyright holders and can do however they like, including demanding a different behaviour from you.

It’s their own and they chose to gift you a licence for free. That’s the basis of everything we’re talking here, even when we talk about your contributions back to WP.

Man, I’m awfully sorry, but you are EITHER very disrespectful person with zero understanding of legal side of the issue OR just a troll.

I’m afraid there’s nothing to talk to you about

Guys, for the sake of not having to lock this otherwise constructive thread, I would kindly ask you to keep the name-calling and personal comments to a minimum. This refers to all participants of the discussion, be it a versed community member or new member.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, as long as that opinion is expressed politely and doesn’t bother anyone. Sort of like the GPL issue at hand, with me being the ruling authority on the matter Minor details can hold great meaning.

Thanks.

It looks to me that many authors lose too much time replying to certain users with no story on the forum except this thread and this argument.

@doru u r virtuoso

Typps said
what ? you killllllllllllllllled my brain

lol to be honest I can’t follow some of those long posts. Maybe I just have ADD

@Caldazar What’s your interest in debating this with us? What I mean is, you don’t seem to be an author, you don’t appear to be a buyer, so why do you care so much about ThemeForest? Is it safe to say that you’re someone from the WordPress pack? And if so, why not just tell us who you are? Trust me, no one here will care

Quite honestly, i don’t get what’s left to debate here. Collis said 100% GPL themes will be possible and that will solve the wordcamp issue. Other authors will just keep releasing under the split license

bitfade said
Quite honestly, i don’t get what’s left to debate here. Collis said 100% GPL themes will be possible and that will solve the wordcamp issue. Other authors will just keep releasing under the split license

+1. The only useful discussion from this point may be analyzing after-effects of 100% GPL within the marketplace. Collis said, it would apply not only for WP but all other open source that comes under GPL.

Collis said there will be a survey. I find this thread still valuable as I’ve changed my mind several times on the importance of the option Matt proposes, become an option here.

That said, it’s so easy to get sucked into endless debates. Better do stuff instead

Caldazar said
I’m still not sure you guys are aware of the relationship between WordPress and you: They give, you take – free. They owe you nothing. That’s where every discourse about ethics has to start, if you want one.

C’mon, we’re giving back a lot of new ideas to the wordpress community. For example Automattic’s “Confit” restaurant theme was inspired by our “Ristorante” theme sold here

ait said

Caldazar said
I’m still not sure you guys are aware of the relationship between WordPress and you: They give, you take – free. They owe you nothing. That’s where every discourse about ethics has to start, if you want one.

C’mon, we’re giving back a lot of new ideas to the wordpress community. For example Automattic’s “Confit” restaurant theme was inspired by our “Ristorante” theme sold here

Maybe I put too much into one post but I mean what I write and nothing else. For example “That’s where every discourse about ethics has to start” means just that, and not that it is the endpoint of said discourse.

But honestly, I’ll stop here, as I neither want to make you feel being trolled nor am I going to waste my and your time trying to walk on eggs.