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quickandeasy Volunteer moderator says

Mine?

I Freeeeeaaakkin LOVE IT !

There is so much talent on this site and it will make life for sooo many designers so much easier.

When a client asks me for a logo, I refer the work on to my friend (I’m terrible at logo illustration) – this is a godsend!

My personal favourites are by Rayzong, and personally i think he’ll be a key player in the category!

what are your thoughts?

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CordellC says

Similar to Viz, I’m still against it. The whole category is cluttered with low-quality/generic/logos. Every now and then a winner shines through, but it’s not too often.

I strongly support the idea of a new marketplace for brands. Branding is such an important part of design that it shouldn’t be scattered here and there across a “graphic” marketplace.

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Viz says
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I guess someone didn’t agree with me? :D

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LanceSnider says
Viz said
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I guess someone didn’t agree with me? :D

Calling out specific authors in the forums and saying their files are crappy is not cool – hence the disabled post. :)

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Viz says

Sorry about that then :(

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quickandeasy Volunteer moderator says

I’m liking what Xtortionist is putting out there, I loved seeing that Anglefish (didn’t realise it was you at first!)

Calling out users is not cool, a generalisation would do ;)

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Viz says

Well I didn’t post any names :D

Anyways, this is basically what I said, with the offending paragraph omitted:

I’m still against it :impatient:

There is so much talent on this site and it will make life for sooo many designers so much easier.

I don’t really see how. I doubt a professional designer would buy a stock logo here and then give it to a client (Hopefully not, anyways). And companies that buy these stock logos (Some already being used by other businesses), are in many cases settling for a generic, low-quality, inferior product which is neither unique, nor a good choice for their business. They might be saving some money upfront – but in the long run it could be damaging to their company when it turns out that there are 20 (or 100? or more?) other businesses with essentially the same logo. Envato is, in a way, exploiting their ignorance.

There is also the fact that professional logo designers (e.g The people who understand that a quality logo takes time, skill, and a great deal of cross-communication to create) are losing clients and income because of it, which makes me kind of surprised and disappointed that Envato- the same company that runs FreelanceSwitch – has created the category in the first place. A logo shouldn’t be sold to multiple people, it’s a bad deal for the buyers, and it’s detrimental to the industry as a whole – an industry that all authors here on Graphicriver are a part of.

Just my 2¢

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fionaR says

At first, just like a lot people posted, I was against the idea and agreed with most, if not all, of the arguments against adding the new category.

But having seen and liked some of the newer submissions and actually giving more thought thought to the issue, I’ve changed my mind. As a logo designer, I don’t agree that this is going to lose me business. Let’s face it, if someone only has $29 to spend on a logo, they can’t afford my prices for a custom logo anyway. So the people who would be buying logos from here, or any other stock logo site are not the clients I’d be targeting my skills at.

Given the amount of work which needs to go into designing a custom logo, I can’t see how anyone could provide that service for as little as $29 so I don’t see how Envato could be taking clients away from professional logo designers.

I do agree with concerns about selling the logos multiple times though – it would be nice to at least have the option for a one-time sell for those savvy customers who are wary of buying a logo that countless others may also buy and use.

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quickandeasy Volunteer moderator says

As @fionaR has just said, my argument for the logo category would be that those people only budgeting $30 or so for a logo, cannot afford a professionally designed one.

About the issue of selling it multiple times – these logo’s are going to be pretty much for mom n pop businesses, which will be local firms and the chances of coming about their logo somewhere else? Slim.

Yesterday, I saw a Microsoft Publisher Template plastered on the side of someone’s van (and they’ll think that represents their business well!) – so imagine how happy they would be to receive what to them, is a unique logo, for $30?

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JackGriffiths says

I personally think the quality of most of the logos are awful. That could be applied to most of the files in Graphic River, however.

There are a few logos which are nice, but to reiterate a point made by others, I think that logos should be definitely be unique, and, like other logo marketplaces, should be sold only once and be exclusive to the buyer.

I would suggest that vector objects would be good enough for designing a logo — obviously, the buyer/”designer” could add his/her own text to the object to create a logo.

I can tell many people will use the logos ‘as-is’, rather than modify them and create a new brand. I suppose it’s like buying and installing a pre-made website template — if you don’t really modify it then there’s going to be a whole load of sites looking like yours.

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