imho plugins shouldn’t be in themes, authors should make a theme compatible which then shows on the “compatible with:” information and then the buyer can decide to buy the plugin for the theme, which brings the following benefits:
1) Plugins are separate from theme so buyers get license for plugin from the author without asking author (and updates are directly from the plugin author)
2) Envato make more money, instead of 1 purchase of the plugin for a theme, buyers buy separate license for the plugin
3) Authors don’t need to support / fix / update someone elses plugin
4) It actually makes the themes better as a theme can’t be built on a plugin exclusively so themes will go back to being about design and not “plugin stuffing”5) Authors can’t try and outdo each other with “get $600 in free plugins” as they will all only be able to say “we are compatible with xx theme (like you already do for woocommerce etc)
That’s how things should be in the perfect world. Such world does not exist, unfortunately.
In reality this will make 99,9% of authors not competitive: you cannot just go and build your own page builder or super-awesome slider. And buyers will not want to spend $150+ on something they are getting for $60.
Personally I think that, something should be done with pricing/licensing model when plugins from CC are included in TF themes. Hiding activation messages will improve end users experience, because many of them believe that they “buy” plugin together with the theme purchase, but on the other side it will hurt plugin developers, because they will loose extra exposure to the end clients. In my opinion, more standardized message eg, “everything is ok, but consider purchasing direct license” is a win-win scenario.
That’s basically what I’m saying
Regarding pricing. Todays pricing allows more authors to use plugins in their themes. But obviously price is to low for themes that earns thousands of dollars weekly. IMO monthly dev license renewal would be fair.
This thing worries me for quite a while, so now I decided to start a public discussion.
On one hand we, theme authors, are purchasing developer licenses and including plugins from CodeCanyon into our themes. (We’ll not discuss the fact that developer license price is ridiculously low just yet )On the other, those plugins are pushing their activation notices. This makes end users feel like they are using half-assed pirated versions of software. And its quite annoying to explain many times a day that
You can use all plugins that comes bundled with this theme without entering purchase codes or activating them.
However if you want a bit faster plugins updates, dedicated support or just want to support their authors – you are more then welcome to purchase dedicated licenses.
Sure theme authors can suppress plugins activation notifications. And I’m myself guilty in doing so.. But I do not feel this is ethical.
Let’s find some consensus.
E.g. can we reach the agreement of having a global variable that will tell the plugin that it’s being bundled with theme. And in this case plugin will show modified notification like “Great, you can use all features of this plugin. However if you want x, y and z benefits, please consider purchasing a separate license.”?
Looking forward for your feedback!
Nobody get sells for Extended licenses for THEMES here (really NOBODY). This license is useless. Even Avada does not have even ONE extended license sold. Only plugins and other files on Codecanyon have really use for this licenses.
This is not true. We’re getting extended license sales from time to time. Still, I do not know in person nobody of those people (which is the shame)
Miroslav here from Dream-Theme.
Biased opinion from one of The7 authors.. but I’ll try to be as objective as possible
Bothe themes are great. Enfold is somewhat faster. Where’s The7 offers much more design customization features and uses Visual Composer as a layout builder. You can use all the addons for Composer (Ultimate Addons comes bundled with the theme) which leads to innumerable pages/posts/portfolio layouts.. again at a price of speed.
If you compare themes to mobile operating systems, The7 is (ironically) Android, while Enfold is iOS. Which is funny, because The7 has iOS-inspired design and most of us (The7 developers) are on OS X and iOS
Hey, use this link:
XXX ID of your hidden item, you can find it in url. Like in your regular item http://themeforest.net/item/armada-multifunction-photography-wordpress-theme/9314649 9314649 – ID.
Works like a charm. Thank you very much!
P. S. This thread can be closed.
Today I decided to work a bit on my old items that got to “Hidden” tab. And discovered that there’s no way to download them from the ThemeForest..
Am I doing something wrong; overlooking something?
Miroslav (from Dream-Theme)
+1. My favorite toy is broken