4GB,....lol…. must have had a lot of videos playing
I just did another test…I use XAMPP on my local when making themes and opened up my site and a second tab in Chrome. Needed 165K
Then I closed it and opened FF which was almost the same. Then for ie10, I did the same but shockingly it only grabbed 55K.
I should probably go back to ie instead of chrome for my primary. Whoever thought ie would be playing nice with resources. I remember long ago going using Netscape (now I’m aging myself) then to ie then to Firefox then a year ago to Chrome, now probably back to ie.
How I got on this I was when I turned on my computer and all cpu cores were hitting the high 90*C range…almost shutting the system down. Not sure why, but the system just did an update from MS. Anyway, opened my Windows Task Manager (Windows I know, sad) and started to watch the resources get eaten up by different things and I noticed the Chrome browser had 4 separate instances running (always does but not sure what each one is with just one window open) but were just gobbling the resources. So I decided to see what the other browsers do. So here is a rundown…
(Just opening to Google)
- Chrome is about 78K of memory
- Firefox is about 78K
- IE 10 is about 37 (seriously)
- Safari for Windows is about 55K
- Opera is about 75K
- Chrome is 85K to 110K
- Firefox is 85K to 105K
- ie10 is 60K to 75K
- Safari is about 75K to 85K
- Opera is about 80K to 100K
So it looks like Chrome and Firefox are the worse for using resources. Going to a site like cnn rocketed these two browsers to 280K
I believe that if you and other buyers presented your case to the Envato staff, they would look into it more as long as there were enough enquiries about it. The reality is, it’s not the designers and developers that keeps them in business, it’s the buyers (customers) and other interested parties that spend money on their network.
However, the other key point is that hopefully every buyer does get support (just not support, but quality support) from the authors they purchase items from because support really is paramount.
... you dont get notification when new comments are posted (unless i missed something??) Using mail (or forum) is easier for me, and faster response time for buyers.
Actually, that’s another good point. Nope, there are no notifications of comments and it looks bad when someone posts questions and you don’t know about it. So unless I missed something somewhere as well, it appears there are no notifications?
But the other point here is that for the buyer, getting fast support is really important, just as much as having a great theme or template, but with support handled on ones own site, the buyer does get a lot faster support turnaround.
Abuse the system.
Buy 25 copies of your theme at the beginning of the week. Consider it advertising costs. If you can manage at least another 25 sales, you’ll be on the Last Weeks Top Wordpress Sellers page. A hundred sales will get you in the top three rows.
It takes money to make money.
lol… that’s like the lottery we have up here called Lotto 6/49 which last I heard was 1 in 14 million chances of winning, so in theory if you buy 14 million lottery tickets…..well, it was a good theory while it lasted.
If I understand this correctly, there’s really only a couple reviewers…the solution would be to have more hired but have at least one per main (and busy) category: WordPress, Site Templates, Joomla, etc. Having someone who knows these platforms like the back of their hand I believe is crucial, although I don’t really think they look at code, but more of the visual aspects of a theme. TF gets a ton of submissions and I know they cannot approve everyone of them, otherwise authors would be on page one for about 5 minutes, lol
Here’s an example…on the wordpress site’s free themes listings, your submission takes about 5 weeks to get reviewed. However, the difference here is that the volunteers work their butts off as well and have a lot of guidelines to review each theme (especially coding standards). If one gets rejected, they definitely give you very detailed feedback of “what and why” and possibly with solutions.
Imagine if they did that at TF with just a couple reviewers….but I think both reviewers here are very tired and probably wouldn’t mind a few added to help take the load off and as I mentioned, I think there should be a reviewer per category (at least for the main categories). The overload is probably why rejection emails are form letters (press of a reject button) to make the job go faster, lol.
I can fully understand your thoughts on how support is handled….for the support side of things from theme/template developers, it’s generally going to be a lot easier to manage all support for all themes made by that developer if it’s done from their site…especially if a developer has a LOT of themes. One of many benefits of having support existing on the developer’s site allows for others to help each other as well when using an onsite forum.
For myself, I can manage and provide much better support and options for each customer from my own site because I can implement many support tools like documentation, downloads, a forum, support ticket system, even a member’s only email form for direct contact.
However, it would be nice to see a support tab added to the top of an item page so that customers could use that as an option because technically, the comments tab really isn’t supposed to be used for support….although I can understand why one would still want that accessible function, hence perhaps a special support tab per item could be implemented which then sends the developer an email notification which they could respond via email…although I’m not sure how many developers would opt in for that.
But again, as Jonathan reiterated what you have mentioned, it can be incredibly frustrating for buyers of many themes to have to sign up on multiple sites for support.
One more thing… when you look at frameworks like Rockettheme’s Gantry, Yootheme’s Warp, or even joomart’s T3, they offer theirs freely, but the one thing they all have in common is that they have other items that are commercially priced for up-selling. They also provide a forum community for everyone to help each other out too.
Side Note: I recommend setting up a twitter account at least and perhaps a Google+ as well.
Would you theme devs be okay with some kind of license for the framework that goes something like: it’s free if you want to use the framework for your personal site, then a small fee if you’re going to sell the resulting theme in TF or to a client (to remove the links to my TF items, etc).
A fee might work or it might not, one thing you could do is do a trial basis first (making note to users a pro fee or something). However, a trial usage as a sort of introduction of the framework for a period of time, perhaps being free, is a good starting point. But here is something to consider…Justin Tadlock has the Hybrid framework and he has done extremely well with it and it’s free (he started selling it at first I believe, then went free) but you pay for support.
If you were to do a fee either upfront or after a trial period, I’m not sure what you would price it at. I still think the free concept with up-selling of other items off your site would be the better route because people love free and if your framework becomes popular and gets spread throughout the social networks and from blogs doing articles about it, that is a major boost.