Hmm, very wise words Gareth… of course. And yes. I have to admit you’ve really pretty much called it. I never had a mentor for anything I did with music, I was always the one pioneering everything I did and tried and experimented with and got into. It was always other people that ended up being sort of protoges to me and never the other way around. That part of the experience has been a double-edged sword in many ways. Great because I had to be so disciplined just to learn what I eventually did figure out and terrible because it took me so so very long and I simply feel winded at this point. I never had a direct plan of attack. I didn’t know anyone in the music business to give me pointers or guide my efforts or say “woah, believe me you don’t want to do that”. I’m actually the only creative/artistic person in my family. Everyone who only knew me to cursory extent advised that music wouldn’t work out for me. I did it because I loved music though. I certainly never had anything formulated in terms of how to come to depend on music fully as a career. Honestly it really never even occurred to me as being anything more than a dream because so many people in my life emphasized how out of reach a creative monetary goal was.
At the same time, when I was sharing my music for free, I gained fans and accolades much quicker than I do now… which caused me to push myself to really get better. I don’t feel much of that anymore and guess I just want to have something more motivating at the end of the day than $100 extra in my bank account. It’s like, that’s really cool but I’d rather know how people feel about my music so I can actually get better.
Actually, I really like what sorohan said. I think the easiest way is to degrade this account to non-exclusive and then give all my music away on all the other sites
But be crafty in other ways so you can still monetize, you’re a skilled musician, you deserve to be rewarded for it.
There’s something interesting I started to experience when I first began making money from music (and I know not everyone experiences this so it is likely very well not applicable to a lot of people here) which is that music started to drain me instead of recharge me… on an emotional and I suppose spiritual level. I don’t think I have fully understood the degree to which this has happened until recently, maybe really even as I type this right now and consider the “weight” that music has become. This massive “weight” which I now carry around is based around the expectations I had for where I should be now and the nagging comparisons I constantly draw between what I’ve wanted and reality. If you worked at a job 20k hours and only got a couple grand from it, I expect anyone would be heartbroken.
Music used to be this wonderful incredible thing for me. I was actually better at playing piano and improvisation 10 years ago than I am now. Is it for lack of practice? No, not at all. So many people told me “wow, your music is fantastic why aren’t you [insert cool money making thing from music here]” that I guess I just started to build a kind of construct in my mind about where this was all heading. I’m not sure at what point music started to feel like a job but I’m not all that sure I want it to feel like that anymore. I have a fantastic job doing product development for a great company where I also get to do audio and video editing and use my music in various applications and more and more I realize that is what I want to be pouring my effort into because it has very very quick and real results. For example in the past 8 months (due to my job) I’ve learned everything from 3d modelling to 3d printing to 3d animation to circuit building and prototyping to code to woodworking and so many things inbetween.
If I had been able to delve into music and get that much done and expressed in 8 months and improve myself in the myriad degrees that my actual job has allowed me to do I’d feel truly invincible. But music hasn’t. It’s been frustrating and a massive let-down and everything negative possible. I lost everything I had when some really shitty people I knew last year (I was going to be involved with a company that did music event planning as a business consultant) decided to screw me over in the worst way possible. One of the core people who I thought was my friend and always talked about opening a business with me kicked me out of his house after trying to start a fight with me (I was renting a room from him at the time) and threw all my stuff away. I literally was left with nothing because of music. I was homeless because of music.
So you know what? I do deserve to rewarded for my efforts. And f**k music especially because of that. I’m going to give everything I have away and focus on things that make me happy. Music has become this awful curse and I realize it works completely the opposite for so many people (and seriously I am very happy for those of you it worked for) but I just feel I have another path and it’s time for me to slough this weight off my shoulders.
I truly do understand the emphasis from everyone else, which I guess just points out how very very unique my particular experience with music may well be.
joshhunsaker saidWell what account do you have? It’s just €70 a year for unlimited uploads, which is not much money at all https://soundcloud.com/pro?ref=t093
You can only post so many songs before it caps you Or I already would have. I literally have like 500 songs I could put up.
Well, 99 euro… and honestly for some odd reason I get like zero traffic on soundcloud lol. I would do much better I think with putting up some youtube instructional videos and then advertise releasing my music for free there.
Maybe read this thread too, quite interesting http://audiojungle.net/forums/thread/forbes-rich-listusing-my-free-music/106674?page=1&reply=0#post_reply
hehe, see that’s what I’m talking about. I think that’s cool.
but just remember how many people make their music available for free, there’s a huge amount of competition out there just for exposure.
I never had trouble with that. I was regularly getting featured in rather prominent flash games and on the front page of a lot of different websites when I concentrated more on just releasing music to the general public to use how they wanted. It just seemed like when I was more focused on the music and not the money I picked up steam extremely quickly for a while…
Whatever you decide, I wish you all the best dude
I appreciate your advice on this stuff. Very well thought out
I’ve given away over milion free downloads of my sfx files in past years… Am I famous and rich?... Probably not It’s idealistic thing and wont’ give you revenue in cash. Just try to be non-ex for some time and compare AJ with other sites, then decide:)!
Maybe this is more me taking a break. I need to venture out into the wild blue yonder and poke around a bit haha. I’ll definitely keep my page up here and maybe throw a track or two up on occasion for kicks.
joshhunsaker saidWell why not put this ‘ton of music’ up on SoundCloud for free download then under a creative commons license? Then you get the best of both worlds.
I’ve also forgone putting up a ton of music I’ve made because it didn’t fit my “branding” and wasn’t quite up to par. I kinda want to just be able to throw everything I have up somewhere and have people enjoy and use the heck out of it.
You can only post so many songs with a free account before it caps you Or I already would have. I literally have like 500 songs I could put up.
You may take your time and give this a read: http://www.deaneogden.com/blog/the-culture-of-free/ Or in short, no!
Hmmm, yes I have contemplated on that viewpoint a bit over the years… going back and forth. But at the same time I have spent literally the past 10 years of my life trying to monetize my music efforts. Have I been totally unsuccessful? Well, no I mean I’ve made like $4k from my music total and while that’s nothing to sneeze at it’s totally unviable for a career. Additionally, in many ways because I took such a staunch view on only trying to make money from my music for quite a while I missed a huge slew of chances to simply get my name out there and pick up more steam. I’ve also forgone putting up a ton of music I’ve made because it didn’t fit my “branding” and wasn’t quite up to par. I kinda want to just be able to throw everything I have up somewhere and have people enjoy and use the heck out of it.
It’s certainly not for everyone but I dunno, I guess at this point in my life it’s definitely the option I’m leaning really heavily towards.
Yup, I’ve decided. It’s been a great run here but honestly… I think it would be more valuable in terms of getting my name out to just allow everything I have written to be used completely free of charge in commercial applications (with attribution of course).
Opinions? don’t do it…?? lol
Really I seriously love this place but just not lucrative enough for me personally to tie up all the ways I could market my stuff outside here.
It seems like a great idea but I think Envato already have a lot on their plate to even start thinking about adding this. We could make an unofficial chat room for authors and buyers. I’m happy to help set one up, I use to run a chat room a few years ago
This would be pretty cool honestly