Thanks for your thoughts on this Lmz – I’ve actually been talking a lot about this with a film composer friend of mine a lot who says Logic sounds like dog dirt. I’ve had my suspicions as before Logic I was on Digital Performer which sounded SO much better to my ears, but I had to leave it because of its awful interface.
I hear quite a few film composers compose in Logic and then mix in Pro Tools, something I’ve been considering for a while but I’ve been intimidated a bit by PT each time I look around. I went to a mixing masterclass where Jake Jackson was doing a live mixing session of the 007 Bond game (soundtrack by Richard Jacques), and I was blown away by how complex it was trying to route stuff around. However, I’m sure it’s not as complicated as I’m thinking and just need to get my hands dirty. Also seems to be essential for passing over stems to mix engineers these days.
I’ve downloaded that plugin Stereo Tool by Flux plugins, so will have a play around with that. I have a plugin by Voxengo called GlissEQ which I quite like and usually use for EQing tracks, but I’ll also take a look at DMG Equality like you suggest.
Lastly, I can’t ignore an important factor which is that I need to acoustically treat my room properly so I can use the two sets of monitors to their full potential (I’ve got a pair of JBL LSR25ps (ooooold now) and Equator D5’s which are new and I’m getting used to.
Great thread Taco! I’d love to have a go of that mix when I get the time, might be a while though, I have downloaded the files and it will probably be Xmas by the time I get around to it but hey!
I like the way people have approached the track slightly different, for instance I like what BHMedia did with the piano and what Gareth did with the percussion, I think the piano sounds better sat underneath rather than upfront, it adds a lot more that way, just my opinion of course.
Some acoustic treatment is essential, I think it has probably been one of the best investments I’ve ever made. I hate to bang on about the mopads but they did make a massive difference for my set up and for the sake of £40.00 of your hard earned income I think it’s a no brainer, there is no point in having decent monitors if you don’t isolate them properly. This all depends on what kind of set up you have of course but well placed treatment will never go a miss.
Anyway it’s a good track i think you should upload it when your happy with it.
Thanks simaudio – funnily enough, I went out and bought some mopad equivalents a couple of days ago! Think I got stung though as they feel a bit flimsy while the mopads look like they’re good quality by the images I’ve seen.
If I were to release this track, I think I’d need to do a longer version and include this one in there for free considering it’s already available for people to download!
By the way, what do you think of these for acoustic treatment of the walls in my studio?http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/product/35735-auralex-d36-dst-roominator-charcoal-.html
Seems pretty cheap, so I have my doubts…
I took simaudio’s mopad suggestion a while back and I haven’t regretted it. I had my monitors sitting on just some regular auralex blocks but with the mopads you have more control over the angle and it seemed to me that the foam was of a better quality. Certainly you should put at least something under the monitors for isolation.
As for the roominator you linked to, I think those will help a great deal especially if you don’t currently have any treatment. I don’t know if I have exactly the same product, but I have 1×1 blocks of Auralex foam in my studio and I can attest that they get the job done (now I just need a bigger space :P).
Also wanted to chime in and thank everybody who posted mixing tips on this thread – some extremely valuable information here, and I’m looking forward to hearing the various mixes when I get time to sit down and concentrate on them.
Looks alright to me, not sure if you will need all that, just make sure you go for the proper Auralex stuff and not the cheaper versions available as I’ve heard stories of the foam falling apart and changing colour after a short time.
I used double sided Velcro so that I could move the panels if I wanted, if you use glue then you are kind of stuck to where they go if you know what I mean, pardon the pun! Also you won’t wreck the wall.
You might be better off going for a few of these and see how you get on, but it does depend on your room size of course. I have these ones…600×600http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/universal-acoustics-mercury-wedge-in-charcoal--55354
Maybe add some smaller ones or a bass trap if you still have problems, but you will find just by adding some of these and some mopads that the bass will get a lot tighter instantly. Don’t forget though you will still need a few reflective surfaces to help the highs…. I use a couple of pictures and some blank cds dotted around.
This article is good especially if you like DIY ha-ha, no seriously though, again depending on your room size? making up some panels could be quite helpful and cost effective….great for ceilings.http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct10/articles/studio-sos-1010.htm
@Jhunger…. a bigger room would be a godsend for sure! But on second thoughts I would only fill it up with more rubbish… Lol
Hope this helps Tacomusic
Mixing is a creative process. Every day new knowledge. It’s like a work of the director. There are no rules to create the perfect mix. There are recommendations.
I think this is one of the best threads to come along in a while. Now I have to find some time to see how the different mixes turned out. Interesting stuff!
If I have time, I’ll make a mix, but to my taste.
Great thread! Will have to check out all the mixes when I get back.
I cannot thank you enough for this… I went over this thread and did some quick adjustments at a piece of mine according to what you’ve said here and it’s already 100 times better… I’ve still got a lot to learn so my opinion might not be as professional, but I think this should be a sticky thread!