The problem here with Illustrator 10 EPS (when you down-save it from a later Illustrator version/ format and want to keep the text editable) is – you need to click Update when you open the file in later Illustrator version to make the text editable. Without clicking Update, the text is outlined and therefore it’s uneditable. Adobe also confirms about this.
Type objects created in Illustrator 10 and earlier are uneditable until you update them for use in later versions. After you update you have access to all the text features in Illustrator CS5, such as paragraph and character styles, optical kerning, and full OpenType® font support.
However, in some of my reviewing process, some reviewers ask for the text in the EPS 10 to be editable by default. It’s something that cannot be achieved with this format (EPS 10) if you don’t Update the type, and this caused some of my soft-rejects. Especially in this stormy nightmare of delays, it makes things a little bit more intense. (However, some other reviewers seem to understand this issue and in those cases there are just no problem. Thank you guys.).
In another GR forum topic I have found someone reported that his item got approved when upload EPS with CS legacy, not EPS 10 here. It’s kinda strange to me. So I think that I need a confirmation from staff on these issues:
- First, if you guys only allow EPS 10, then I think all reviewers should have the same opinion when it comes to this editable text thing in the EPS 10. Sometimes I was asked about this, sometimes not – this is really confusing and sounds more like a matter of “luck” each time?
- Second, do you guys accept EPS CS? Please have a confirmation on this.
Thanks for reading the message. Whatever, I do respect your works of reviewing, just want things to be transparent and standard so there would be no confusing for me or anyone else.
Great question and i also look forward to clarification.
I recently uploaded a logo template, and just as you’re saying, I had to save as CS EPS to keep text editable. It was soft-rejected for other reasons, but they did not say anything about needing to make it Illustrator 10 EPS.
But a final word from staff would be great.
I am save my file into 2 version, epsCS4 and eps10…
Thank you guys for the replies and support .
So, I have just tried to research and look for some official guidelines on this and found Vectors Category Submission Requirements which stated that the EPS file should be “EPS format, Adobe Illustrator 8 or 10 compatible”. Another document, T-Shirt Preparation Guidelines only stated that EPS file needed, not stated any specific version. Seems like I cannot find any specific guideline on Logo submission requirements within the Knowledgebase, even though this is the fastest growing category at the moment.
gbs, this is an important question, did you click on Request staff reply ?
Hi everybody – My attention was just drawn to this thread, and I wanted to reply. This should not be considered as an “official” staff response, but I have some insight on this issue, as I review Logos Templates. EPS10 files normally allow the text to remain “live” or editable. This is how it is supposed to work. However, there seems to be a bug with some non-English versions of Illustrator, which causes the text to convert to outlines when saved down to EPS version 10. I have actually spoken to Adobe engineers about this and have tested several files with other Illustrator experts. Since there are so many variables. e.g., platform, Illustrator version, font choice, etc., it is hard to pin down exactly what causes this problem. I suspect it happens with RTL (right-to-left) languages, but I am not 100% sure. Believe me, I’ve done a lot of research
Since we have so many authors from all around the world, we have identified some of you who have this issue. For these authors, we allow an EPS11 with editable text in addition to the EPS10.
If you are experiencing the text outlining issue, please include both the EPS10 and EPS11 versions, and please make a note of this in the help file. It’s also helpful if you include this in the “notes to reviewer” section when you upload. There are only a handful of authors with this issue, but it’s nice to be reminded of who you are, so we don’t reject erroneously
Just to reiterate, we do require EPS10 files for Logo Templates, with editable, or “live” type. This works for 95% of our authors. If you are in that lucky 5%, however, please include both the EPS10 file (with outlined text) and an EPS11 file (with editable text). Thanks!
Another thing worth noting, is that there is a known bug with ligatures. If your text contains a ligature, like “fi” or “fl”, etc., the text will get outlined. You can attempt to fix this by going to the OpenType panel and turning off ligatures, then saving your EPS10 file. Remember to save your EPS, then close and re-open it to double-check. Ligatures are nice, though, so you might want to upload both and EPS10 and EPS11. Again, please make a note of it in the help file and in the notes to reviewer.
(Probably more arcane Illustrator stuff than you wanted to know!)
@Illustrator88: Thank you for your response to my old topc. It’s very useful to me and I think to all the authors who have the same concern too. The ligature issue was the reason that troubled me in some cases but now it’s okay when I have found the reason. Good to know that we can include EPS11 in addition to EPS10 too. Cheers!