Discussion on Neon - Bootstrap Admin Theme

Discussion on Neon - Bootstrap Admin Theme

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Hi! This looks like a fantastic Chat integration. I have a few questions. Q1. De we need an extended license? Facts: The company I work for has an internal website where our company’s customers would like to communicate with us and with each other. Customers (startups) apply to be part of our program—if accepted, we provide some funding and receive some equity in each startup. Access to our internal site is restricted to our customers and certain others, but is free. Q2. Can all archived chat messages be searched using keyword search? Q3. Are there any GPL or Split License Terms that apply? Q4. Would we need to modify the source code for integration purposes? If so, are we allowed to? Q5. Once we integrate this Chat API, do we still retain full rights to our own code, without the need to provide or disclose our code to others?

Thanks :)

Hi sfpm

Firstly thank you for being interested in our theme. I will try to answer your questions and hopefully they will make sense.

1. You only need an extended license when your application is being sold and contains our theme. Here is the explanation of the licenses.

2. Unfortunately this feature is not implemented in the current version of Neon theme, so we do not have an ETA for that. You can add this functionality on your own, because each user has specific development requirements.

3. We have only included plugins that are free to use with GPL licenses and none of them is “premium” plugin.

4. Yes you need to modify the code, because the functionality is added by your developers. This is just a plain HTML theme and to add the purpose to it, you must add the code and modify it when needed. We have applied predefined parameters for each GUI element just to illustrate how you can use them, and to show the varieties of the theme.

5. Sure you will have the rights of your code. In this case if the theme code (Neon) is being distributed to the users (standalone copy) you need to purchase extended license.

Thanks again and have a great day.


Arlind

Hi Arlind, Thanks for your detailed reply and I have just one more question. We are unable to integrate any software that is licensed under GPL (or other viral) terms. Are any of the plugins (or any other software) you have included in the Neon Theme or Chat API licensed under GPL (or other viral) terms? Best regards.

Hi

You are welcome, and as many times you need I will try to explain whatever you need about the Neon.

Yes Neon in general uses third-party plugins that are licensed under the GPL, MIT, APACHE and other types of licenses which are all available for free use. See the list of plugins here http://documentation.laborator.co/neon/#7.Credits

Neon Chat API is developed by us and we own the rights for it. In this case they are protected by Envato Policy.

Best regards


Arlind

Hello and thanks for the fantastic theme. I’m wondering how I would go about getting mobile version of the top menu (Logo with menu toggle) to show on both xs and sm. I have too many menu items to show horizontally on the small layout width.

Thanks for your help

Hi there,

currently it is not supported by the theme, you can try implementing it in your own until we come up with a fix for that.

Kind Regards,
Art

Hello,

In the example is on page tables can be downloaded in excel but it purchases not allowed to do. There are additional download something?

Hi

To add extensions to tables here is the list of them:

http://www.datatables.net/extensions/index

Those on the list are available and the only ones that can be implemented to the DataTables.


Arlind

Good day could you please tell me if it is possible to have a fixed side bar menu and a fixed top menu ?

thanks

Hi,

unfortunately we don’t have a layout that you can select from the demo, but you can do this manually by setting the sidebar menu to fixed.

Kind Regards,
Art

I have a question about selectBoxIt and Bootstrap. I’m able to implement selectBoxIt by adding “selectboxit” to the class name of the element. However, I’m using form elements that are using input-lg for the size. What can I do to make selectBoxIt inherit the size?

Hi

I understand what you mean, but actually this is not included in Neon theme, we have just did that for standard input size.

If you want to achieve it, you have to modify the CSS for -lg version. With some small CSS changes.


Arlind

I ended up applying the following css overrides which have helped:

.selectboxit-container span, .selectboxit-container .selectboxit-options a
{
    height: 40px;
    line-height: 40px;
}
.page-body .selectboxit-container .selectboxit .selectboxit-text {
    font-size:14px
}

Great to hear that you fixed it, thank you for sharing the fix.

Sorry for not being able to help you.

Kind Regards,
Art

Hi, Can I set the menu on mobile screens on the left side? Or can you add that option? Makes the Theme much nicer. Thanks!

Hi

I know what do you mean here, but currently this is not supported in Neon theme, I am sorry about it. We will try to implement this feature in next releases but if you have knowledge in CSS and JavaScript you may give a try, because we don’t have an ETA for this feature.


Arlind

Hi, well okay, I will try hack it in. Thanks for fast response!

Glad to hear that :)

Arlind

Hi, pre purchase question: the theme is sold with documentation about how connect every component with data? Can i see a documentation example? Thakns

Hi

We have included the basic documentation for the theme youcab view it here:

htpp://documentation.laborator.co/neon

Cheers

Arlind

Hi, We like Neon theme for our business app, however, the devs are complaining that the theme is pretty heavy with a lot of seemingly redundant references like to jquery (which seems to be places in multiple spots within the tree structure). We don’t want to start pulling out stuff lest it break in ways we don’t understand. Can you suggest what we can take out which will help us get a lighter themeset but not lose functionality, if at all? Or how else do we reduce the footprint? thanks eGov

Hi egovfoundation

Neon comes with full set of functionality, so to remove it in the end of each file you have the html comment that explains what has been imported in that page. The extra configuration scripts can be removed from your developers, it is pretty easy to understand because the code is commented and the functionality is described, so you will not loose anything.

Arlind

First off really like the neon theme, however we are having problems implementing the horizontal theme on mobile devices.

All works fine on PC monitors but when scaled down to mobile sized the top bar doesn’t downscale properly. It also seems to be an issue on the demo pages.

Any fixes available?

Thanks

Hi there,

what you need to do is add a display:block; to the .horizontal-menu div, you can do it by overwriting or in the core CSS, here is the code I got from the inspect element:

.page-container.horizontal-menu header.navbar.navbar-fixed-top {
display: block !important;
}

Kind Regards,
Art

Hi guys, is it possible to have a listing of all the files that was updated in the 1.8 version. Thank you

Good Idea

I hope you have managed to get it work.

Cheers


Arlind

We hope that helped you :)

Hey guys,

the templates is just perfect and suits perfectly my needs, thanks a lot from Paris!

I just encountered a small issue and I hope that I’m not the only one. When i add the “fixed” class to the menu (or just go on the appropriate layout html file) and switch to the smartphone size, the navigation bar gets half transparent and the css seems to be completely broken.

It works fine on your online demo, I downloaded the file a second time in case I did modify something I shouldn’t have but same issue!

Could you check?

Thanks and happy new year!

Works like a charm thanks !!!

Concerning the second issue: please have a look at the same link (osteodesk.com). Lets say your mouse is on the right side of your screen and you scroll down. As soon as you hit the “next patient” box, it will scroll down the patients. Once it hits the end of that list if you want to continue scrolling the page you have to move your mouse outside the scrollbox or you’re blocked!

Any idea?

Hi ygery,

Great :), as for the second question now i know for what issue are you talking, we have used NiceScroll plugin for that, we will look for a fix for it and release a new update soon.

Ylli

Thanks!

Hello. after updating template to last version, you added in neon-core.css

.select2-search input, .select2-search-choice-close, .select2-container .select2-choice abbr, .select2-container .select2-choice .select2-arrow b { background-image: none !important; }

is there a motivation? because it hides [x] symbol on tags input

Hi

We thought the “X” icon is displayed via character “×”

Does it fix this problem if you remove this css declaration?


Arlind

yes, if i comment this declaration the “x” is showing.

other thing, on lockscreen is not present ”.form-login-error”.

i tried to copy from login screen, but with bad luck.

Hi

Thanks for reporting it, I have fixed it now.

For the second issue, I am not sure what exactly do you think, but the form works properly if you enter have invalid data the forms highlights the input: http://cl.ly/ZGSv


Arlind

Hi,

we have purchased Neon theme and so far everything is fine. Problems begin when we are trying to change and compile LESS files.

After executing command in terminal: lessc neon.less, where neon.less file is located in ../neon/assets/css/neon.less/ I am getting error:

NameError: variable @signal is undefined in ../html/neon/assets/css/other-less/lesshat.less on line 2530, column 16:

2529 .inception (@signal, @arguments) when (@signal = 4) and not (isstring(@process)) and not (iscolor(@process)) and not (isnumber(@process)) and not (iskeyword(@process)) and not (isurl(@process)) and not (ispixel(@process)) and not (ispercentage(@process)) and not (isem(@process)) {} 2530 .inception(@signal, @arguments); 2531 }

Errors are thrown even when nothing is changed in LESS files.

Could you please tell me where could be a problem?

Thank you in advance.

Hi there

Depending on the error report generated via less compiler, the issues are thrown from lesshat.less which is built by thirdparty developer. So please download the latest version of lesshat.less, replace with the current one (in assets/css/other-less/ folder) and test if it works for you.

Download it here: http://lesshat.madebysource.com/

Then tell me if it works for you, because I am not able to test in my local machine, I use CodeKit to compile the less files and it doesn’t generate that error, maybe you are using some newer/older version of Less.


Arlind

Thank you! This solved our problem.

Glad to hear that :)

Arlind

Hi,

we have purchased Neon theme and so far everything is fine. Problems begin when we are trying to change and compile LESS files.

After executing command in terminal: lessc neon.less, where neon.less file is located in ../neon/assets/css/neon.less/ I am getting error:

NameError: variable @signal is undefined in ../html/neon/assets/css/other-less/lesshat.less on line 2530, column 16:

2529 .inception (@signal, @arguments) when (@signal = 4) and not (isstring(@process)) and not (iscolor(@process)) and not (isnumber(@process)) and not (iskeyword(@process)) and not (isurl(@process)) and not (ispixel(@process)) and not (ispercentage(@process)) and not (isem(@process)) {} 2530 .inception(@signal, @arguments); 2531 }

Errors are thrown even when nothing is changed in LESS files.

Could you please tell me where could be a problem?

Thank you in advance.

Hi martins_pudelis

Sorry we only provide support to users who have the “PURCHASED” badge. If you have purchased Neon then login to that account that you have purchased it and comment here.


Arlind

Hi,

We are working on using Neon theme for our website and have the following questions/issues: 1. We would like to use the map of a country that is not included in the template. We have created the map we want to use in vector format. Can you provide instructions for using using Neon template with a vector map? 2. Can you provide instructions for editing the colors of bars in the charts?

Thanks

Hi wonasanya

You should follow API of Vectormaps to get it working, the examples we have included are shown with the predefined maps we have found in http://jvectormap.com/maps/world/europe/

We haven’t tested so much with these maps, so I don’t know exactly how to create custom maps with JvectorMaps.

For the charts, can you please tell me which type of charts you want to change color? Possibly send me a screenshot.


Arlind

Arlind,

The chart I am trying to use different colored bars for: In the charts page, it is the chart called bar charts.

Thanks

Hi there,

It depends on which type of charts you want to use, if you’re using the sparkline charts it is easy, when you initialize them in JavaScript you have also the color attribute.

If you’re using the Morris Charts here you can find more information about customizing them:

http://morrisjs.github.io/morris.js/index.html

Kind Regards,
Art

Hi, on December 30 Envato sent an email regarding an update on Neon, is there a new update that is not included in the changelog?

Hi arsuro, we are sorry for that, there is nothing new, we just changed theme thumbnail image.

Ylli

Please also provide angular js support to neon theme.

Will it be coming to neon?

Hi there,

I am sorry but we’re not planning to add the Angular version to Neon.

Hey,

the theme is actually nice. Its easy to use, thumbs up for that.

However, i would like to integrate a full ajax system for the dashboard so the content could be load dynamically. This is probably not possible at the moment, because the main reason is also to avoid the loading // check of all the .js or .css files. The issue is that the javascript is not reinitialized on new and dynamic page content, that is probably sad.

Is there a way that on a newer version a javascript initalize function would be given? As example Metronic has a core function which is enough to be called to reload every javascript initalize functions.

Regards

Additionally, repsponsive design has a small issue on mobile version. The message/notification/task box is on width 100% but has a margin right, which has the result that it out of view on the left side.

Hi Grief-Code

Firstly thank you for your feedback.

I am sorry about this, but we didn’t implemented the AJAX system for full theme navigation, Neon is just static admin template, considering the time it was released we didn’t intended to make it more advanced.

You can consider our other theme Xenon which supports this system:

http://themeforest.net/item/xenon-bootstrap-admin-theme-with-angularjs/9059661

So, Xenon supports AngularJS which is very easy to adapt to and full in AJAX, I guess you have heard about this javascript MVC framework?

About the responsive issues, thanks for reporting that, we will try to fix it and include in the next update.


Arlind

Hi,

The latest release notes mentions the following fix:
* [Fix] Rebuild of core layout with pure CSS, doesn't need the JS to set the height anymore

What does this mean? Set height of what?

I’m wondering beacuse i currently have a problem with the older version which might be solved with this fix.

Thanks,
Joakim

Hi Joakim

About this fix, we have used an algorithm (before update) that always sets the height of sidebar the same as the content, and it was fired every 100 milliseconds to balance the height of sidebar and main content.

So prior to this, we have removed this kind of technique and implemented the Table layout which will make always balanced columns.

To be more clear, two floated divs cannot have the same height, so to maintain it we have used that algorithm and now with this technique it is not needed anymore, this consisted in performance improvements.

Hopefully I was clear on my answer.


Arlind

Hi. Just bought the template and integrating into a site. I’m probably missing something. Is there a way of having the sidebar collapse or expand on a user click or similar? The template seems to be supplied with static sidebars either expanded or collapsed – was just hoping to make it interactive. Also does the datatables CSS support v2? Thanks

Hi there, can you please post with the account you bought the theme, this way we can verify that you’re a real customer as we do not offer support to users who doesn’t have “Purchased” badge.

Doh! I should have posted under the xenon tag!!

Hi,

to get the support for your ticket please make sure you post it in the right section.

Kind Regards,
Art

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